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				07-13-2001, 03:27 PM
			
			
			
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				Can't cum - about antidepresants
			 
 Hello, I hope somebody out here any doc, pharmacist or chemist could answer me.
 I've been in some kind of depression recently and my father who is a psychiatrist gave me an antidepresant - "Seroxat".  Some side effects did happen at first like nausea, dizzyness, sleepiness but there was another effect: I COULDN'T CUM. Well, at first this was not a problem for me, because it was not a problem of my efficiency, but later it started to cause serious pain in my loans.
 
 Secondly, I love to make sex with my wife, she does also, and she was delighted at first when I could make her cum 4-5 times without me cumming but she whats me to cum also.
 
 Any advice, I'd appreciate. Is this because of Seroxat? or is it because of the depressed state i'm in? If it's because of the medication, will it be over?
 
 Thanks..
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				07-13-2001, 10:32 PM
			
			
			
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				 About Seroxat & ejaculation 
 Joys- 
I'm not a physician or pharmacist, but I have some post-graduate  classes and work experience in counselling, and I have had many different anti-depressants prescribed for me and so did my late wife, so I have quite a bit of practical knowledge on the topic.  Also, I just spent about 90 mins. doing more research on the Web.
 
I found quite a few men in other forums with the same complaint 
of difficulty ejaculating while taking Seroxat (or the US brand Paxil,) and at least twice that many who had great trouble getting an erection.  Several had to give up Seroxat, several were able to add a second anti-depressant to it and that helped, some found out the sexual side effects decreased the longer they used it, and some got better with a higher dose of Seroxat.
 
The manufacturer (oops, forgot to put their name in my notes) had the following statements that may apply to you in their company info about Seroxat: 
"Men may have difficulty having an erection or may find it difficult to ejaculate. The majority of these effects will lessen with continued use of the medicine... If you have any problems while taking Seroxat, tell your doctor or pharmacist."
 
Of course, telling your doctor or pharmacist first is always good advice.  I almost always talk to my pharmacist first, unless the side-effects I notice are something my doc has already warned me about, then I just let him know about the severity of any problems. Since your father is your psychiatrist, hopefully he can be a good source of advice for you.
 
Most of the anti-depressants of the "SSRI" type, including almost all of the most often prescribed ones like Seroxat and Prozac, have fairly common negative sexual effects.  From reading other Web users' posts around the net, I found that many get help with sexual side effects, and often better results for their depression, by taking combinations of from 2 to as many as 5 medications and hormones. In fact, currently, I'm on 2 compatible anti-depressants, 2 hormones and 1 stimulant. (Part of my diagnosis says "medication-resistant major depression")  
 
I'm 50 yrs old, and I certainly don't cum as quickly as I did when I was a young man, but that is really OK in my case, most of the time. It is only frustrating every once in awhile, and who knows whether this fairly seldom occurence is related to my anti-depressants or not.  I've just been on my latest combination for about 4 months, and after 1 month I realized I was more horny, more often, than I had been since my mid-20s. In fact, maybe a higher sex drive than ever before. I have to admit I kind of like it!
 
One other thing that many people mentioned about Seroxat is that it is actually dangerous to quit taking it suddenly.  I was only taking it for about 3 or 4 weeks before my doc & I realized my depression was actually worse than with my earlier meds, but even then he took me off of it by reducing my dose a little each day for about 10 days and adding in a little of another compatible anti-depressant each of those days.
 
I get carried away and write too much info in my posts sometimes, 
but I hope this one will be of some help to you and your wife.
 
Take good care of yourself!  RW- MrCuriousUSA    
				__________________Y'all cum now, ya hear?
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				07-14-2001, 02:29 AM
			
			
			
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				to MrCuriousUSA
			 
 Thanks a lot for your reply & feedback. I've recieved your post and PM both. It was much reliefing. I will print it out and show to my my wife. In fact, it's not a big problem for me - not cumming since i do not have a problem of  impotance, I can make her cum more then I could before cause I last longer. I also asked a doc friend of mine who said before viagra, these kinds of antidepresants were used to prevent pre-ejaculation.
 Thanks a lot again for your kind and informing reply. I appreciate it much
 
 Joys
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				07-19-2001, 10:47 PM
			
			
			
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	| I am  a  pharmacist,  and yes  antidepresant   drugs  can  cause  many  forms  of sexual  dysfunction,   you  might  try  a different  one, or   try  lowering the  dose,   it sounds like  your  wife  is very  supportive  and  with  her help  and  some  drug or dose  adjustments  you  should  find something that  can  help  with  your  depression  without   killing  you  ability  in  the  bedroom |  
		
			
	
		
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				07-23-2001, 04:21 PM
			
			
			
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	| Thank you rockman for your feedback.
 Yes my wife is a great support but although jokingly, she does complain about me of not cumming. I told her "look, i'm still alive and horny after your 3rd or 4th orgasm" but guess she misses my cum.
 
 Anyhow, I've tried some other antidepresants, prozac and deprex but their side effects were worse - agression, paranoid actions with alchohol... With Seroxat, I did have my depression relieved and with no serious side effects (other than this) - only some as I mentioned before at the first stages.
 
 As I told b4, my dad is a psychiatrist (a professor actually) and I trust him a lot. I didn't ask this to him at first as he was away and actually I was ashamed (and my wife) and put it here on the board. Now, with the info from you, I have the courage to ask him, cause I'm sure when he gets back, he will ask me how I'm doing with seroxat.
 
 Regarding the dose, I took 10 mgs for the first 5 days and now taking 20 mgs/day.
 
 And another thing, it doesn't kill my ability in bedroom, on the contrary it enhances it because i dont cum. Once, long time ago I used Meleril, which made me cum but could not ejaculate. This is not the case. I am able, but simply dont cum.
 
 Rockman, do you think this will go on as long as I use this drug, or will it pass away after a period I use like the nashua and dizzyness did? On the perscription, it says it will pass away but its been almost 3 weeks now.
 
			
			
			
			
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				07-23-2001, 08:14 PM
			
			
			
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	| Unfortunately  the side  effects are  not  standard  in  everyone, sometimes they  do lesson  or  disappear  as  you continue to  take  the medication,  in others  they  never get  worse but  do  not  improve  either,   the  3 week reference  i beleive  is  more in  reference  to se if medication  is  going to  help  with  your  depression,  it  is always  advised  to  take  a anitdepresant  for  at  least  3 weeks  to  give  it a chance.back  to your  taking  of  the  drug,  is your  erection harder and  painful  with this medication,   or just  normal  and you just  can  cum?
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				07-23-2001, 10:47 PM
			
			
			
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	| My erection is just normal if not better and the only thing is that i cant cum |  
		
			
	
		
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				07-23-2001, 10:51 PM
			
			
			
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	| The pain is, you know, when I can't cum, pain in the loins. ý feel like my balls are loaded where I know physicallaly they aren'nt
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				07-24-2001, 07:39 AM
			
			
			
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				Try self stimulation
			 
 I know what you are talking about joys.  I was on Celexa for a year and a half.  I often had trouble cumming.  Not always, and escpecially in the beginning of my treatment.  One thing in addition to trying different medications you might try is masturbation.  
 Women are told if they have trouble cumming, to masturbate and bring yourself to orgasm.  A person can "train" him or herself to cum faster that way, or slower depending upon one's dilemma.  It might not work as the cause of your prolonged erections are chemical, but you might find it works.  Different people react differently.
 
 I've been off the Celexa now for about 4 months and I have the opposite, I cum faster than I want!  I got used to the prolonging effects and now-- spurt!  I have found that my sex drive is way up though!  I compensate to my wife with longer foreplay, but that is another post.
 
 Good luck!
 
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	| Paroxatine is in the family of antidepressant called SRI's.  They all have upto a 60% chance of delaying or stopping u from cumming.  They are used for men who actually cum to fast for their partners.  Wellbutrin , Effexor , Remeron and Serozone are newer with the least chance of  stopping  or delaying ejacualtion.   Some of them are added to SRI's as they can sometimes reverse that side effect.  If iparaxotine is working for your depression I would not change but look at adding if possible ( if u want too ) but u shuld do it with the help of a Doctor.
 Good luck
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				07-25-2001, 03:17 AM
			
			
			
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				 Came at last 
 Thanks to all folks. You are really helpful and informative. I'd like to let you all know that I came at last this morning - God I had missed it LOL. I'm not sure what will happen later on though. Whether the effect of the medication is subsiding or it will be another 3 weeks before I cum once again. |  
		
			
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