Irish, I completely disagree. I've heard the argument before... Guns don't kill people. BS. It was the bullets from those guns that killed every victim there. Take the guns out of the situation and then what would the death toll be? On the coroner's report, what do you think the cause of death will be? I'm betting gunshot wound. As far as a permit goes, when someone is f'ed up enough to go on a killing spree, do you think they care about a permit? Innocent people DIE everyday regardless of proper training and safety classes. I've heard too many news stories of children showing off their parents guns and then, "I don't know what happened, it just went off!" So we end up with another dead child. I will NEVER have a gun in my house. Human life is WAY more important than owning a weapon that is designed and built to KILL. And this society has shown way to often that it cannot handle the responsibilty of owning such a destructive weapon. Call it protection if you want, it's designed to end a life... be it human or animal. I think I've known you long enough Irish, to know I'm not going to change your opinion, but you said youre peace, and I've just said mine. No hard feelings, but we are definitely on opposite sides considering this issue.

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