Scotzoidman---I agree.It may sound stupid but in the old "motor-
cycle"lifestyle;your buddies;were the guys that if they rode by and
saw 20guys kicking your ass.They would stop and help you;
knowing that a win;was impossible; but that way there would be
10guys kicking yours and 10 kicking theirs.To them that was
preferable to 20 kicking yours.They did that because they knew
that you would do the same thing for them.You paid your dues and after that they would do anything for you.As you say--
Anything excepy homosexuality.That was a "NO-No"all around!
Irish

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(Harley Davidson & the Marlboro Man)