the main problem I see with their argument is this..... at least SOME bull calves have to live to procreate....while I do admit I refuse to eat commercial veal....actually I rarely eat commercial beef....my family raises enough moo-tao's to keep about 4-5 and have 2 for slaughter every year or two. there have been accidents and a 1 year old steer has been slaughtered b/c of injuries suffered during extraction from a sink hole. yes. I live out beyond the boonies. I've also seen the fuckin bag these dairy cows get on them, and seen the relief on their faces when they step into their milking stalls and the cups go on, think about it in terms of having to pee.... you hold it in butit starts to hurt after a bit..... Milkin the bitches is more humane than letting them get fever from not being milked. as for forcing them to get pregnant......... ok in the wild, do you think the bull goes over and says you know you're in estrus but I don't feel like havin another set of hooves on this pasture this season....? noooooooooooooooooooooooo lol



fucking retards

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